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DIANA
WYNNE JONES INTERVIEW
It’s not often that you find yourself in a city
which resembles the world of somebody’s imagination,
but as my taxi got lost on the slopes of Clifton in
Bristol, searching for Diana Wynne-Jones’s home
it felt just like slipping into one of her fantasies.
With the Severn estuary gliding dreamily on one side
and a patchwork of delicate, brightly coloured Regency
houses and eclectic gardens tumbling down the hill
on the other, I expected to see her god-like magician,
Chrestomanci, striding along a narrow lane and disappearing
into a parallel universe.
The world of one of our most original and fertile
fantasists is about to become a lot more famous this
year thanks to a film of her novel, Howl’s Moving
Castle. The great anime director, Hayao Miyazaki, whose
Spirited Away became the international hit of 2003
has just released it in Japan where it is breaking
all box-office records. Anyone familiar with the works
of both can see that here is a marriage made in heaven,
for the world of Wynne-Jones and that of Spirited Away
are uncannily close. The mysterious enchanter Howl
not only has a castle that moves but doors that open
onto four different towns in the land of Ingary, a
captive demon and a bewitched crone of a servant who
is in fact a pretty young girl called Sophie Hatter.
Miyazaki is a long-term fan of Wynne-Jones’s
work, and when he made a secret visit to her house
to discuss the film discovered that she, too, loved
his earlier fantasies, such as Castle in the Air.
“I think he’s a genius,” Wynne-Jones
says. “He’s short, like many Japanese
people, but he seems twice the size of anybody else
in the room. We had the most marvellous conversation,
while sitting round eating a huge cake which the poor
interpreter never got a bite of. It’s rare to
find someone who thinks like you do.”
The quality of Wynne-Jones’s imagination is
often compared to that of JK Rowling, to the detriment
of the latter in the case of a notorious attack by
AS Byatt when the fifth Harry Potter novel was published.
Although both feature worlds in which the mundane mixes
with the magical, they could not be more different.
Where Rowling’s plots are highly controlled thrillers,
Wynne-Jones’s often come to her in a dream and
retain the organic strangeness, comic unpredictability,
dread and sense of wonder that a volcanic subconscious
can throw up. (She also has the uncanny knack of predicting
future events in her own life, including breaking her
neck last year.) The first children’s author
to explore the implications and ramifications of the
multiverse theory (as Philip Pullman acknowledged in
His Dark Materials) Wynne-Jones has at least nine universes
which need to be kept in order by a special order of
enchanters called Chrestomanci. Her latest book, Conrad’s
Fate, is about a young boy who, though good, clever
and bold, suffers from appalling luck due to his bad
karma. Sent to work as a servant in a magical
fortress, he meets an elegant, mysterious friend called
Christopher, and discovers that his own family are
not all that he believed.
Wynne-Jones, who wrote the satirical Tough Guide to
Fantasy is a mistress of manipulating the expectations
of the genre, which in her hands becomes disturbingly
dark before good triumphs. Children are put in mortal
danger from family members; they are not only lost
and starved but in novels such as Hexwood, tortured
and killed. Writing such scenes almost “broke
my brain”, but seeing life “from the ground
up” gives her a strong sense of the cruelty and
injustice of adults. The young Diana and her sisters
hated what they called “Goddy books” like
What Katy Did, both for their tedious virtue and because
their own childhood was startlingly unhappy.
“My books are about people learning to be themselves,” she
says. “I don’t have any truck with the
notion of growing up, so tiresome, there’s no
profit in talking about what time and nature will do.
But most people do start off with no self-image, and
that makes a child terribly vulnerable. They don’t
know themselves enough to say, ‘I’d never
do that.’ Nobody knows how everyone else seems
to be managing – of course it’s by imitation
and invention.”
She grew up during World War Two, in Thaxted, Essex, “where
every other person was mad, and there were more eccentrics
per square yard than anywhere I’ve been.” The
loony old wizards and witches who people her books
are drawn from life, but Wynne-Jones’s parents,
both teachers, have seeded their presence in a darker
form. Her father was remote but her mother, an Oxford
graduate, not only subjected her three daughters to
years of verbal abuse but was relentlessly cruel.
“If we grew out of our shoes – really
grew out, so that our heels were coming out of the
back, she would blame us and make our lives hell. She
kept all the clothing coupons for herself, and the
only time we ever got new clothes was when our grandmother
used her coupons to buy us some. I was incredibly busy
trying to rescue my sisters, making them clothes, looking
after them. If ever we were ill, we were told it was
only psychological, so we knew that we had to tell
them we were sick in front of other people. I think
she was part of a very dreadful generation of women
who struggled like mad for academic success then found
it didn’t lead anywhere. I’ve tried for
years to understand why she behaved as she did, and
when she died last year had some psychotherapy before
deciding that some people are just made like that.”
The elegant, dandyish Christopher Chant was her ultimate
risposte to this, but it is Wynne-Jones’s dark
side, as well as her playful intelligence, which gives
her work a characteristic bite. Sometimes, as in novels
like Witch Week (where everyone in a school turns out
to have magical powers, for which they will be burnt
at the stake) the fantasy comes very close to nightmare;
in others, such as The Magicians of Caprona or Power
of Three, a spirit of ebullient comedy and kindliness
keeps it at bay.
“Children think they are unique in their misfortunes,
and I want to tell them they aren’t alone. I
thought my childhood was normal, and was terribly angry
and miserable when I discovered it wasn’t. It
took me years to find my equilibrium, but I gradually
worked it out – I suppose, writing books.”
The mother of three boys, she and her husband John
moved from Oxford when he got a job as English professor
at Bristol, and one of their sons is now a distinguished
English academic, like Diana’s sister Isobel
Armstrong. Her heroes are often boys simply because,
she says, she knows how boys think; she started to
write for children when her youngest went off to school
and “couldn’t seem to stop.” With
five Chrestomanci books and over twenty others to her
name, she has more than a million copies in print but
missed the fantasy boom of this decade. Yet as her
editor, Stella Paskins, who rediscovered and reissued
her books after having loved them as a child remarked, “One
of the things about fantasy is that it doesn’t
date. Only reality gets old-fashioned.”
The Times, March 2005
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